Wednesday, 26 September 2007

Why I admire Ernst Zundel

Just for the record, and given the storm of comments this post has provoked, the title was taken from the original posting. I do admire anyone who stands up to orthodoxy, I admire Copernicus for the same reason, but I do not necessarily agree with Zundel or all of the post I've reprinted below - same goes for everything on this crazy website! Jebus, if I believed all this stuff I would be in a loony-bin, and I'm not! Why don't people understand that? The words reprinted below are those of the author, my intention is to inform and deliberately flaunt the incarceration of this man, he wrote a book, he didn't try and take over the world. He simply wants to express his opinion.

Some more on the Zundel story, it never ceases to amaze me how such a blatant violation of everything we in "democratic" societies hold dear can occur under the very noses of all of us. This story puts us all to shame. None of the cowards in the mainstream media dare speak of the influence of the Zionist Scum for fear of being sacked and labeled an "anti-semite" well guess what? I do! If loathing the vile, racist, violent, bloodthirsty, hateful and corrupt state of Israel, or opposing the imprisonment of anyone for expressing an OPINION is anti-semitism then, by gum, I am an anti-semite and bloody well proud of it! The ignorance in this world will be the fuel by which hundreds of thousands of innocents burn. Our "civilisation" is nothing of the kind, we are a primitive, barbaric child-race not much different to a bunch of baboons!

How could anyone admire a man that publicly admits admiration for Adolf Hitler, that openly acknowledges himself to be a "Holocaust skeptic," and who never apologizes for his political incorrectness and nonconformist views? Who could possibly approve of a man who has put his personal freedom and indeed life on the line countless times in order to do nothing more than bring the world’s attention to what he believes to be an honest, albeit alternative view of history? Who could appreciate anyone bold enough to literally carry a cross on his own back, on behalf of all the world’s Germans for no other reason than to at least partially exonerate them of the collective guilt forced upon them after the Second World War?

Who could possibly admire a man that has sustained nothing but continuous persecution from society at large, who has been the victim of an ongoing smear campaigns launched more than three decades ago, who has suffered from every conceivable attack on his character, finances, family and even on his life? Who could think highly of man who despite all these things, and despite the fact that he is in prison at this very moment, not for a crime, no…no…. but because he questions certain aspects of the holocaust story?

Again, I ask, who could ever appreciate a man who for the last several decades has devoted himself to bringing forth the unpopular views of hard working academics, who were it not for Ernst Zundel, may be unknown today, and their work tossed into the sea of forgettable historiography, not based upon its undeniable merit, but based upon the fact that it didn’t sit well with mainstream and politically acceptable views?

How could anyone possibly hold a man like this in high regard, when there are so many other courageous individuals out there willing to stand up for their views, heroes that wouldn’t consider apologizing for their beliefs, like American politicians? For instance, when Jim Moran boldly exclaimed the obvious fact that Israel stood the most to gain from a U.S. war in Iraq, and in fact was influencing American foreign policy by way of a few well placed American Zionist officials. What about Trent Lott, who stated at a GOP function that the United States would have been, better off today had Strom Thurmond become president back in the 1950s. What about the daring exploits of Howard Dean, the Democratic parties best bet in 2004, a man unafraid to take a stand on an issue he can apologize for later. Yes, America is full of courageous people, people unafraid to throw their neighbor to the crocodile, in hopes of being the last eaten.
If I were interested in apologists and hesitant stands on ambiguous issues, I’d have plenty of heroes to admire, right here in the United States. Being an academic, I could seek out other academics to idolize and/or admire, there are so many courageous examples, although I can’t think of one right now. Some of you might shout, "Hey, what about Noam Chomsky?" I’d just say, been there done that, and found the esteemed professor "sympathetic" to Ernst Zundel’s plight, "outrageous," he even exclaimed, but in the end, he felt that it wouldn’t be in anyone’s best interests, if he were to speak out too vocally on Ernst’s behalf. Academic cowardice?

What about all the gutsy journalists working for the prestigious networks and newspapers? Certainly, these bold "defenders" of truth and justice would write an article on the illegal nature in which Ernst was deported from the United States to Canada, where he was subsequently thrown quietly into a solitary confinement cell in the Toronto West detention Center, in Toronto Canada. Or how in 2005 he was quietly deported from Canada to his native Germany where he now sits more than a year later after numerous trial delays initiated by his persecutors. These brave journalists would definitely be interested in an expose on how the new terrorism laws are already being abused to silence dissent.

The idea that Mr. Zundel is a threat to any nations national Security is ridiculous, the man hasn’t committed a violent crime in his entire life and has never been convicted of a crime that wasn’t later overturned in Canada’s highest court. The brave and courageous purveyor’s of "fair and balanced" news haven’t written an article yet, that even approached an equitable portrayal of Mr. Zundel. Ernst Zundel’s crime is that he is politically incorrect, a nonconformist and no matter what the powers that be throw at him, he just won’t apologize and prostrate himself in feigned humility like so many of our illustrious leaders. He is dangerous only to the status quo, and they know it, that in fact is why he currently languishes in prison, not because he actually represents a danger to society.

Full story...


pcapostate said...

Thanks for posting this too - the Zundel saga MUST get out to the people. The only reason people aren't marching in the strreets over what has been done to Zundel is most importantly, nobody knows about it, but also those that do are under the erroneous impression Zundel is a "hater."

Anonymous said...

Wow, your post is getting a lot of attention, and both poisted it which means you'll be getting approx 30K hits over the next day or two

Anonymous said...

Hate is just an emotionally intense realization that someone or something is out to get you. It helps defend the hater from various forms of attack. If it is repressed it emerges in other ways, usually harmful and ineffective. That's why the enemy wants to supress it. Hate, really, can be very valid.

Anonymous said...

"Hate can be very valid?"

No doubt you're happy the "hate crimes" bill passed the Senate. There are already laws out there to punish those that engage in crimes. The whole point of getting a "hate bill" passed is to go after Hate Speech which will effecticvely shut down any negative criticism of JEWS. Blacks are nothing more than proxy agents of the Jew, exploited to take all the heat off the chosen

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, there are a lot of apathetic people in this world who think Ernst is getting what he deserves, and we all should be in jail cells right next to him.

These people are too lazy and stupid to do anything more than accept what has been handed to them.

Anonymous said...

"These people are too lazy and stupid..."

You can say that again. How many would that be? Maybe five or six billion?

Anonymous said...

Ernst Zundel is not a very likeable man. And he says things that are contrary to accepted historical fact. Those same attributes could easily be applied to many thousands of people. Should George W. Bush be sharing his cell?

Anonymous said...

why do you support fascists?

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
why do you support fascists?"

Strangely, if we look at the Bush family, we see the product of fascists, great grandfather and grandfather involved heavily with the nazi's, the former as part of Hitler's financiers, the latter who traded freely with the nazi's whilst Americans were being killed.

Then of course there is Rove's forebear, a major Nazi party member involved in the commission of at least one SS camp...

But not forgetting the attempted 1933 coup in America by the Bush family forebears and others in the elite, where they tried to force 500,000 veterans from WWI to destroy the legitimate government and install guess what...? A fascist dictatorship. Yes in America.

Tony Blair and his wife is best friends with Max Mosely, the son of Britain's foremost Nazi who persecuted Jews in East London.

So who are the fascists here? From my viewpoint it is the governments in America and Britain, it is Bush and Blair to name two.

And I do agree that this man has the right to express himself, we are slowly descending into the dark days of burning the witches at the stake for the least infraction, this man has dared to question, to express an opinion, opinions are sovereign territory of that person and any attempt to sidestep that is a heinous crime.

And I do agree that the numbers don't add up, when there was 15m jews worldwide prior to Hitler's ascension and in 1945 still about 15m jews worldwide after the Germans had supposedly done away with as many as 12m, doesn't take a genius...

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Masher1 said...

Once Mr Zundel gets his day in the REAL court he is going to have a great stick to beat Asses with.

I see a Gargantuan lawsuit with a HEFTY amount of payback awaiting Ernst with his coming victory over this brown shirted jack boot on his neck.

Don't take any guff from these swine Ernst. We will see you Free soon!

Carmenisacat said...

Well said.

Ed said...

It's nice to see this post getting lots of attention, it should. The fact that a man is in prison for expressing an opinion should be enough to enrage anyone! Who cares what he has written ort spoken about, it's the principle of the thing. People should not get locked up for ideas. That's FASCISM! Period.

Anonymous said...

Anon said:

"Strangely, if we look at the Bush family, we see the product of fascists......."

Zundel is a fascist too.

You mention Blair being chummy with Moseley's son - as if that means something.

Yet here you are defending Zundel - an actual fascist - not someone who's just friends with the son of a fascist.


Anonymous said...

The only reason people aren't marching in the strreets over what has been done to Zundel is most importantly, nobody knows about it

Rubbish! It's everywhere on the net. The ignoramus's are the ones treating him as some martyr for truth. He is a liar - how can you make him into some symbol for hidden truth? The "hidden truth" if there is some, is that Zundel IS a fascist.

...the erroneous impression Zundel is a "hater."

He IS. He IS a fascist, you deluded fool.......

Ed said...

I think you have your definition of fascism all wrong. Looking at wikipedia it says:

Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology (generally tied to a mass movement) that considers individual and other societal interests subordinate to the needs of the state. Fascists seek to forge a type of national unity, usually based on (but not limited to) ethnic, cultural, or racial attributes. Various scholars attribute different characteristics to fascism, but the following elements are usually seen as its integral parts: nationalism, authoritarianism, statism, militarism, totalitarianism, anti-communism, corporatism, populism, and opposition to economic and political liberalism.

How on earth can you use that description with Zundel, a scholar who's written some books?

Oh, it would be helpful if people made up pseudonyms instead of all this "anonymous" stuff, makes it hard to know who's saying what! But don't worry about it, I'm sure we can all figure it out :-)

Anonymous said...

ewar said

How on earth can you use that description [fascist] with Zundel, a scholar who's written some books?

Geez - what about what is WRITTEN?? How about his book "The Hitler We Love and Why???

A scholar!? You call that scholarship! He's a damn liar, NOT a scholar AND he's a hypocrite to boot: this is a quote from zundel:-

Photocopy and distribute this, and join the worldwide campaign to BAN SCHINDLER'S LIST!

Information: Ernst Zuendel at Samisdat Pub., 206 Carlton St., Toronto, Ont., M5A 2L1 Canada

I think it's pathetic that people use this neo-nazi moron as a poster-child against repression.

You can't find anyone else? The lack of ANY alternative other than a fascist to symbolise repression is pathetic - and it speaks of what this eulogising of Zundelnazi is REALLY about.


Tell me why Zundel deserves this attention? Why the admiration? Why not mention ANYBODY ELSE?

Tell me why Zundel is admired above anyone else who is repressed?

If there aren't better examples of repression than Germany acting against a fascist, then there can't be much repression, can there?

And if people can't think of BETTER examples of repression than Germany acting against fascist Zundel - then what does that make you? I'll tell you - it makes you a mouthpiece for fascism. It makes useful idiots out of you.

Ed said...

With all due respect I don't care what his opinions are, just because some guy (crazy or not) writes a book saying he loves Hitler does not automatically make him a fascist and there is still no justification whatsoever for locking him up. Has he murdered anybody? Has he robbed anybody? Has he raped anybody? No! So why the hell should he be locked up. It's we that are one step away from fascism.

I respect those who disagree with Zundel, I never once said I agreed with him myself. What I am saying is that people have a right to their opinions no matter how crazy or weird they seem. By not defending this man's right to freedom of speech we are taking a step down the road of having it denied to all of us. Shit, if they were going to start locking people up then I would be one of the first to go!

Anonymous said...

Whether Zundel is likeable or not a fascist, a Mormon, a seventh day adventist is neither here nor there. The only relevant question is this:
Should he be in jail?
Everything else is just smoke and mirrors.

Anonymous said...

The above poster is obviously a shill - he's carefulkly monitoring all comments here and is devoted to having the last word. Zundel is a shining example of truth and honesty compared to such an individual.

I have a message for him....

Do you know who wrote the following?:

"The Jews aren't always so clever as they would like themselves to believe. Whenever they are in danger they prove to be the stupidest devils."

Maybe you people should start embracing honesty and integrity rather than Jewish supremacism

Ed said...

Hear hear!!

Anonymous said...

Sorry. There should be a comma after "likeable or not".

Ed said...

I see an increasing number of people taking on the shills and ZioScum and Fundies all over the internet, it is truly wonderful to behold! Peace and love to all of them, and you.

Anonymous said...

Since when do "scholars" publish pamphlets claiming UFO's are craft from antartic nazi-base?

Come on! Get real! Scholar!????

Here's some more of your hero's 'scholarship':

An article in the January 1977 issue of White Power Report entitled "Our New Emblem: The Best of Two Worlds" conveys the tone of Zundel's work during this time:

"Wherever we look, we White people find ourselves besieged by peoples of other races who compete aggressively against us for jobs, food, housing, education and above all -- power! The Jews are particularly adept at seizing or insinuating themselves into strategic positions in our society where they wield power far beyond the extent of their numbers....Through us, the White majority of Europe and America, the Jewish minority have obtained their advantages, including their Israel, their Federal Reserve, their World Bank and their International Monetary Fund. In exchange for these advantages, the Jews give us -- their White hosts -- wars, depressions, inflation, unemployment, energy shortages, higher and higher taxes and air piracy. Like sheep, they expect us to go down the road with them -- all the way to the kosher slaughterhouse. We White people of America have done nothing so far which would frustrate the Jews' expectations or their ambitions of becoming the world's slavemasters."

The real reason Zundel is "admired" is because you people believe the same bullshit. It's got nothing to do with PRINCIPLE for most people - else you'd find someone genuinely DESERVING of praise and help against repression.

You only "care" because you share his views. Isn't that true?

Rivero, Rense, pcapostate and all the rest of them - always trotting out the same old shit.

---"The ICRC reports don't mention holocaust"


---"Sharon said "We the jews control america..."


But then, for some people, that's what counts for scholarship.

Ed said...

Oh for crying out load, you just don't get it do you? Argue the miniscule details and ignore the basic argument everyone is trying to make. It's the principle of the thing. You, me, the others on this comment forum and everyone else has the write to publish books on anything we like without being locked up by jack-booted little fascists like you who think that no-one has the right to an opinion that disagrees with your narrow little world-view. Get a life!

Anonymous said...

Zundel is a shining example of truth and honesty compared to such an individual.

What a joke. He's a liar.

this man has dared to question, to express an opinion, opinions are sovereign territory of that person

Don't be so stupid. He published, supplied and funded neo-nazi shite internationally.

That isn't "having an opinion" - it's a concerted and organised effort at rehabilitating nazism.

So who are the fascists here? From my viewpoint it is the governments in America and Britain, it is Bush and Blair to name two.

So what are you doing defending such politics? What are you defending even more overt and extremist fascist politics?

WHY??? If Bush and Blair are fascists, as you claim, why do you make a hero out of Zundel-nazi? That puts you in Bush's camp, understand?

Ed said...

No one here is defending extreme fascist policies, we are saying people have the right to an opinion.

Anonymous said...

Mr Eewar woowaa

You claim you don't care what Zundel's views are?

haha - that's a joke? You just happen to share the same views as Zundel.......

Evidently you DO share SOME of the same views. They are all over YOUR blog.

As an example of your views, you have a link to PCAPOSTATE - who also has first dibs on the comments here. The association is clear.

Your link on this blog to his venomous blog says

Another Example of a Nigger Killing a Child Because the Child Might Reveal The Niggers Sexual Deviancy

It links to pcapostate's blog, where it says:

A convicted child sex offender pleaded guilty today to fatally stabbing an 11-year-old Baltimore boy whose family he had befriended. [Definitely typical nigger behavior]

There's more of that shit there, but you get the point.

everyone else has the write (sic) to publish books on anything we like

Sure - but if you publish racist bullshit like that don't be surprised when someone criticises you for it.

As you are the blogger here - I'd like to ask a relevant question, or three:

---Do you thunk you share the same views as Zundel? About Holocaust? About anything else?

---Are you racist or a white supremacist or some such?

---Are you a fascist?

It's the PRINCIPLE, remember.

Ed said...

If you can't even spell my name right then you're even more of an idiot than I thought. In answer to your questions:

1. No.
2. No.
3. No.

Ed said...

Also, the top of the site clearly states:

Please remember that I am not telling you what to think or believe, take everything you read here with a large grain of salt!

Anonymous said...

If you are not a racist, as you claim, why do you choose to publish the following links:

# Nothing but the Latest Example of a Worthless Nigger Attacking a White Man with a Brick for No Reason at all

# Another Example of a Nigger Killing a Child Because the Child Might Reveal The Niggers Sexual Deviancy

Those are links to PCApostate's blog.

I already quoted from that blog and the article you linked to - you don't think it counts as RACISM?

From your own supplied definition of fascism it says

Fascists seek to forge a type of national unity, usually based on (but not limited to) ethnic, cultural, or racial attributes.

Hmmm. You have racist sentiment as a hyperlink to an article with racist annotations.

Do you promote things you disagree with? Do you?

I never once said I agreed with [Zundel] myself

But you DO have a post on your blog that says "Why I admire Zundel"? The very same article racist PCApostate published a while back.....

Admiring Zundel has nothing to do with freespeech.

And you DO say

I see an increasing number of people taking on the shills and ZioScum....

Hmmm. ZioScum. Straight out of the lexicon of Zundel and other fascists.

So whilst you claim to not be a racist, you have racist sentiments as a hyperlink to an article annotated with vicious racism.

And whilst you claim not to share views with Zundel, you use the same lexicon he does, and PROMOTE the same ideas and sentiment.......and publish articles with titles like "Why I Admire Zundel."

It's a complete cop-out to say "take with a pinch of salt". All the things you post have the same themes - evidently they are things YOU CHOOSE TO PROMOTE.

And whilst you claim not to agree with Zundel, you DO say:

the erroneous impression Zundel is a "hater."

(Why is that an erroneous impression?)

Your claim to be committed to "principle" whilst not sharing Zundel's views is undermined by your claims that Zundel is "not a hater".

Are you saying you ARE a hater?

See, if you had said, "Zundel IS a hater" and "I don't agree with him" - the reader would logically surmise you were NOT "a hater".


BUT, as you said "Zundel is not a hater" AND you also said you don't share his views, the reader must come to the obvious conclusion that you ARE a hater.

Either that or a liar - surely? What other options are there?

Ed said...

Whatever, why don't you go and bug someone else.

Anonymous said...

Germany is not the only region which crushes Free Speech. After all, censorship is becoming America's favorite past-time. The US gov't (and their corporate friends), already detain protesters, ban books like America Deceived (book) from Amazon and Wikipedia, shut down Imus and fire 21-year tenured, BYU physics professor Steven Jones because he proved explosives, thermite in particular, took down the WTC buildings. Free Speech forever.
Vote for Dr. Ron Paul and save this country.

Ed said...

I, so, hope Ron Paul wins!!

Anonymous said...

David Cole Interviews Dr. Franciszek Piper, Director, Auschwitz State Museum

Anonymous said...

tlnl: Question: Do you think you share the same views as Zundel? About Holocaust? About anything else?

ewarwoowar: Answer - No.

Funny, but I found this comment OF YOURS on another article at this blog:

ewar woowar said:

Of course we can't go out and say it because then we run the risk of getting locked up!

Hmm. Say what, exactly? The same things Zundel said, obviously.

And yet you claim you don't agree with him!

So what was it you aren't allowed to say? Come on - why don't you tell us?

And why don't you tell us what it is that Zundel is locked up for?


And yet you have the temerity to DENY you share views with Zundel!

[haha - block my IP address?]

Ed said...

I'm not blocking anything. Unlike others I don't mind opposing views even when they are written by people who obviously have an agenda. You can say anything you like on this blog, I really don't mind. I will let my readers come to their own conclusions - as will I come to mine.

Anonymous said...
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
Ed said...

Now you're just being rude and horrible, I revoke my last statement and I'm blocking your nasty little ass from now on. Go find someone else to play with.

Anonymous said...

Why did you delete a comment in a thread supposedly about freespeech?

You only want freespeech for fascists?

Funny, you were getting all PRINCIPLED about freespeech - then you deleted my post and stopped comments..........

Your "principles" look a little thin, don't they?

Ed said...

I changed my mind, you pissed me off and I reacted emotionally. Later on I thought about it and as you can see, your drivvel is here in all its technicolour glory and comments are allowed on this posting again. I remember reading somewhere that the google page rank engine likes blogs that have lots of comments, so really you're doing me a favour. Go on, post away to your black little heart's content.

Anonymous said...

my post is STILL deleted. WHY?

weewoowar said:

Of course we can't go out and say it because then we run the risk of getting locked up!

That's WHY you support Zundel - so don't lie and pretend it's about "the principle".

You tried to make out you didn't care what Zundel had claimed - you even very clearly denied you agreed with his views.

Obviously it isn't about principle because you agree with him. And you'll even clearly lie to defend the "principle".

you denied it. I asked you, you said "NO."

And, if you are not a racist, why did you put those racist headlines linking to pcapostate's racist bilge? WHY? Why do you PROMOTE such racism, and then deny you are a racist?

If you were NOT a racist, that racist crap would NEVER BE THERE.

And so, whilst you suggest I have "a black heart" - it is clearly YOU who has the links to racist websites - and it is YOU who has clearly lied whilst denying shared views with Zundel-nazi.

If you lie about sharing views with Zundel - are you likewise lieing about being a racist? And are you lieing about being a fascist too?

What views do you hold that are markedly anti-racist, and/or anti-fascist?

Everything you publish suggests otherwise.

Can you give any examples of your own views which are NOT fascist, or racist?

It might help your credibility over claims that you are not those things, especially as we have seen that in fact you DO share Zundel's views on the holocaust (even though you lied and denied it.)

Ed said...

Dude, give me a break. Blogger don't allow the undeletion of posts, you can complain to them about that one. I did try and undelete it when I decided that my reaction was a bit over the top. If you're that worried about it, repost it and I will leave it alone. Or even better, come up with something newer and even more vitriolic to entertain us all.

Ed said...

If you want to leave a comment on every post on the blog then you're free to wade through the whole archive. This humble little blog has never had so many comments on a single post so I'm more than happy for them to continue :-)

Ed said...

I was enjoying that exchange and he's gone home :-(

I'm wondering if his repartie changes? So far I'm not seeing any imaginative vitriole. I did care when I realised I was being sucked into it, now I think karma will deal with our anonymous friend.

Never again will I block a comment on this blog, no matter how much it annoys me.

It's going to be a fun ride. I'm loving the attention, now I know how Salman Rushdie feels :-))

Anonymous said...

If it writes like a fed, talks like a fed and acts like a fed must be "tlnl"....

Ed said...

nice :-) a person after my own heart

Anonymous said...

And everybody can see you fail to address the issues.

Ed said...

He prides himself on ignoring the issues, through the whole discourse the only thing he could do was call me a liar. It did piss me off until I realised that was the intention, then it was just funny. The sad little bastard doesn't even work at weekends! And before anyone accuses me of not having a life, my friends are all in this room with me and they are the only judge of my character I will accept as valid.

Ed said...

Bring the little bastards on! I am done cow-towing to these fucks and so should you be! Mr tlnl you are a dopey little cunt who needs to work longer hours! Ha ha, I guess the $billions you extract from the US taxpayers doesn't cover Israeli intelligence working at the weekend! And you're not even here to argue with me. Gotta love it! Igo de sayanim puta!

pcapostate said...

Mr tlnl you are a dopey little cunt


Thanks for supporting Ernst Zundel by helping to bring his case before more and more people.

Masher1 said...

As i said. Stick Beating Evil Ass.

And i am going to even throw a Zundel is Free! PARTY!.

Boy when you annoy the Zio-retards they sure go on and on don't they?

Ernst was railroaded. Anyone that can't muster a word of support for this man and his plight needs a Boot for his own neck because he does not get even one percent of FREEDOM. Ernst was jailed to SHUT UP as many voices of descent as they could muster with his Multi-country Screwing.

Perhaps Ernst will come to my party after he is back on the street.

Anyone wanna bet the man is forming up a DOOSY of a book to swat the current Ruining Class in D.C.

First you take D.C. Then you take New York (:

Jason said...

Elie Wiesel vs Encyclopaedia Britannica

Wiesel has been a prominent spokesman for the very sizeable group of people known as Holocaust survivors. Wiesel has chaired the US Holocaust Memorial Council and has been the recipient of a Congressional Gold Medal and Nobel Peace Prize (sic).

Time Magazine, March 18 1985:

‘How had he survived two of the most notorious killing fields [Auschwitz and Buchenwald] of the century? "I will never know" he says. "I was always weak. I never ate. The slightest wind would turn me over. In Buchenwald they sent 10,000 to their deaths every day. I was always in the last hundred near the gate. They stopped. Why?"

Compare this with Encyclopaedia Britannica (1993), under ‘Buchenwald’:

"In World War II it held about 20,000 prisoners.. Although there were no gas chambers, hundreds perished monthly through disease, malnutrition, exhaustion, beatings and executions."

My Favorite Elie Wiesel Stories


.. She explained that she had taken classes in Holocaust studies at Harvard and felt she had a good background on the subject. I wasn’t talking to someone who was in the dark about what the Holocaust had been. I wanted to know what texts were followed in her classes but somehow she was unable to name them. She did recall the name of Raul Hilberg, and I was able to give her the title of his book, The Destruction of the European Jews.

"But the writer who influenced me most is Elie Wiesel."

"Is that right?" I said. "We have something in common then. I don’t know who has influenced me more in the way I regard Holocaust literature than Elie Wiesel."

"Is that right?" she said enthusiastically, turning in her seat toward me.

"He’s not a historian though, is he?"

She considered the question thoughtfully, "Not in a strict sense."

I told her some of my favourite Elie Wiesel stories. I started with the one where he writes that there is evidence that when some Russians were executed at Babi Yar in Ukraine that the cadavers of those who were Jews, in a unique protest against their ill treatment, spurted geysers of blood from their graves for months after they were buried.

"He wrote that in Jews of Silence," I said, "In a straight book of journalism about Soviet Jews and the refusal of the State to allow them to emigrate. Its not a book of poetry, straight journalism. What do you think about a man who would repeat such a claim? Wiesel writes in long hand in French. His wife translates his stuff into English. Presumably Wiesel goes over the translation. The translation is typeset and presumably Wiesel goes over the galleys. When he claims that the Jewish cadavers spurt geysers of blood from their graves for months after they were buried it isn’t a slip of the pen. Wiesel believes that it’s a credible story. He wants you and me to believe it’s credible. He wants the kids he teaches at Boston University to believe it’s credible. It isn’t only that Wiesel is not a historian. There may be other things as well that he is not. He may not be wrapped too tight, for example."

The girl didn’t say anything.

I told her some more of Elie Wiesel stories. I took them largely from his recommended reading list of survivor eyewitness testimonies. I told them as amusingly as I could, and as gently as I could. As I went along I introduced a few observations about the gas chamber stories from a Revisionist perspective. Occasionally she would smile or ask a question, but as I talked on she grew increasingly silent. After three or four hundred miles I had the feeling I had said enough, but I couldn’t stop myself. The longer I talked the more investment I had in wanting her to see what good sense I was making.

I told her about how Wiesel especially recommends the eyewitness testimony of Yankiel Wiernik as evidence for the gas chambers at Treblinka and the extermination there of about a million Jews. I told her how Wiernik claims that he saw with his own eyes how the cadavers of pregnant Jewish women that had been exterminated would burst open while they were being cremated…their bellies would burst open…and that inside their wombs you could see their fetuses burning like torches.

I said, "Here is the question I think Elie Wiesel’s students should pose to him: As the Americans and the British each specialized in burning alive German and Japanese women by the ten thousands in mass terror bombings, and as there are no reports that pregnant German or Japanese women were able to mount such displays with their own wombs and fetuses while their own bodies were in flames, as Yankiel Wiernik – is Elie Wiesel – suggesting that only Jewish ladies have the talent for it? What is it that Wiesel is attempting to suggest when he recommends Wiernik’s eyewitness testimony to his students at Boston University? What does he reveal about his standards for historical objectivity? What does he reveal about his inner life?"

At that moment the girl took her head in both hands, put her face on her knees and moaned: "I just feel like I’m being proselytized," she said. She shook her head slowly from side to side, still holding it in both hands, doubled over in her seat.

extract from Confessions of a Holocaust Revisionist
By Bradley R. Smith

Anonymous said...

Statement by Richard Lynn, Professor Emeritus
University of Ulster, December 5, 2005:
"I've checked out Churchill's Second World War and the statement is quite correct - not a single mention of Nazi 'gas chambers,' a 'genocide' of the Jews, or of 'six million' Jewish victims of the war.
Eisenhower's Crusade in Europe is a book of 559 pages; the six volumes of Churchill's Second World War total 4,448 pages; and De Gaulle's three-volume Mémoires de guerre is 2,054 pages.
In this mass of writing, which altogether totals 7,061 pages (not including the introductory parts), published from 1948 to 1959, one will find no mention either of Nazi 'gas chambers,' a 'genocide' of the Jews, or of 'six million' Jewish victims of the war."

Extract from The Holocaust Industry by Norman G. Finkelstein of the City University of New York (published by Verso, London and New York, 2000):
'The Israeli Prime Minister's office recently put the number of "living Holocaust survivors" at nearly a million' (p.83).

Anonymous said...

The Views of Four Key Diplomats on WW2
The origins of World War 2 - the views of four diplomats close to events

Joseph P. Kennedy, U.S. Ambassador to Britain during the years immediately preceding WW2 was the father of the famous American Kennedy dynasty. James Forrestal the first US Secretary of Defense (1947-1949) quotes him as saying "Chamberlain (the British Prime Minister) stated that America and the world Jews had forced England into the war". (The Forrestal Diaries ed. Millis, Cassell 1952 p129).
Count Jerzy Potocki, the Polish Ambassador in Washington, in a report to the Polish Foreign Office in January 1939, is quoted approvingly by the highly respected British military historian Major-General JFC Fuller. Concerning public opinion in America he says "Above all, propaganda here is entirely in Jewish hands…when bearing public ignorance in mind, their propaganda is so effective that people have no real knowledge of the true state of affairs in Europe… It is interesting to observe that in this carefully thought-out campaign… no reference at all is made to Soviet Russia. If that country is mentioned, it is referred to in a friendly manner and people are given the impression that Soviet Russia is part of the democratic group of countries… Jewry was able not only to establish a dangerous centre in the New World for the dissemination of hatred and enmity, but it also succeeded in dividing the world into two warlike camps…President Roosevelt has been given the power.. to create huge reserves in armaments for a future war which the Jews are deliberately heading for." (Fuller, JFC: The Decisive Battles of the Western World vol 3 pp 372-374.)
Hugh Wilson, the American Ambassador in Berlin until 1938, the year before the war broke out, found anti-Semitism in Germany ‘understandable’. This was because before the advent of the Nazis, "the stage, the press, medicine and law [were] crowded with Jews…among the few with money to splurge, a high proportion [were] Jews…the leaders of the Bolshevist movement in Russia, a movement desperately feared in Germany, were Jews. One could feel the spreading resentment and hatred." (Hugh Wilson: Diplomat between the Wars, Longmans 1941, quoted in Leonard Mosley, Lindbergh, Hodder 1976).
Sir Nevile Henderson, British Ambassador in Berlin ‘said further that the hostile attitude in Great Britain was the work of Jews and enemies of the Nazis, which was what Hitler thought himself’ (Taylor, AJP: The Origins of the Second World War Penguin 1965, 1987 etc p 324).

Anonymous said...

He prides himself on ignoring the issues, through the whole discourse the only thing he could do was call me a liar.

Another lie.

I asked if you were a racist. You said "NO".

Yet on your sidebar you have racist comments linking to a racist article.

You can lie, and say "No,I'm not a racist." But the facts speak for themselves.

YOUR sidebar says

# Nothing but the Latest Example of a Worthless Nigger Attacking a White Man with a Brick for No Reason at all

# Another Example of a Nigger Killing a Child Because the Child Might Reveal The Niggers Sexual Deviancy

I asked if you agreed with Zundel's views on the holocaust.

You said "No." That's a lie.

Elsewhere on your blog you said

Of course we can't go out and say it because then we run the risk of getting locked up!

So you lied AGAIN.

Now there are very clearly two instances of your lies.

You made those lies whilst attempting to defend yourself from my charge that you and your blog SUPPORT FASCISTS.

In defending yourself, you lied by claiming that you didn't support Zundel's views - you were only interested in "the principle".

Well, as we've seen you DO share Zundel's views - so again you were lieing. So much for your "principle".

Everyone can clearly see you've lied all right through these comments.

And if this thread is "getting a lot of attention" anyone with integrity would be ashamed at being so easily exposed as a liar. But then - nobody with integrity ever COULD be so exposed.

But you just brazen it out.

You even closed off the comments for a while. In a thread complaining about the censorship of FASCISTS!!

HAHA - pathetic.

What an insult to your audience. Unless of course, like yourself, they easily accept lieing about their views. And why lie in the first place? Because you know your views are despicable and are rejected by the vast majority of people, that's why.

So you masquerade as something you are not.

You went on about the "principle" of freespeech - then closed the comments here.

You deny you're a racist, but have racist links to racist articles.

And your instinct, even in a thread championing Zundel - is towards direct lies and censorship.

That's the very stuff you accuse Zundel's jailers of being.

Still, I don't expect such irony makes any difference to someone as prepared as you to lie and censor.

So are you a fascist? You denied it, but you lied answering my other questions.

So - do you hold to ANY beliefs which could be considered non-fascist?

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